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Brokk Witgenstein
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Posted - 2016.09.01 07:48:46 -
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So, ummm ... defensive FW Plexing alt army? What happened to consequences in highsec? Throwaway gank Thoraxes? Free Venture mining ops 24/7 everywhere?
I foresee problems here boys.
Question: Can these clones trade / jetisson stuff? |
Brokk Witgenstein
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Posted - 2016.09.01 07:52:40 -
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Just gave you one: FW DPlexing. |
Brokk Witgenstein
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Posted - 2016.09.01 07:55:17 -
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Oh, and another one: free throwaway thrashers instapopping small frigs and capsules. Where is the problem you ask? NO CONSEQUENCE. Biomass and be at it again in 3 hours tops. |
Brokk Witgenstein
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Posted - 2016.09.01 09:26:09 -
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Grookshank wrote:Please drop the safety idea. It is really a bad one. An army of free alts is not a high-sec problem; it is a general problem in all areas of space.
There should be a limit on only being able to log in one alpha and no alpha and omega together like on trial accounts.
I'd go even farther and propose only ONE Alpha be logged in period. If you have an Omega, drop the Alpha. You want to attract new player, not offer a free alt to subscribers. I can only see abuse in consequence-free 5mil SP alts. |
Brokk Witgenstein
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Posted - 2016.09.01 09:37:48 -
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Dex Cordell wrote:I'd like to upvote the suggestion about aggro restriction, green only in high sec, to avoid freebie gank swarms adding up to the already tedious ganking environment there.
Missing the point- there's plenty of exploits with safety green. Free gankers are as bad as free miners, free scouts, free DPlexers, free assembly lines, free scanner alts, free logi, free belt Orca bumpers (which WILL work with green safety LOL) in fact "free" is the problematic part here. If everyone else is getting freebees I demand free cyno alts and free cloaky eyes too-- then I can unsub as well.
Ganking is the least of your concerns imo. |
Brokk Witgenstein
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Posted - 2016.09.01 14:55:45 -
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Ms Michigan wrote:
I would love to see Alpha permadeath or limited to 10 reclones before they have to buy an Omega for at least one cycle to reset the counter back to 10. Make them like slaves in lore to our Omega. haha
Some very interesting points raised there, but permadeath sounds like fun; kinda like civilians that couldn't afford a proper clone and got a flawed, degenerating one from Quark's ;-)
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Brokk Witgenstein
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Posted - 2016.09.03 01:26:03 -
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The problem may in fact not be with the clones, but with the multiboxing. And despite automation and scripting being outlawed, I am convinced there's still more than a few out there running such setups. Either that or my rig is getting really old because I can't see 28 clients running simultaneously and still respond at a moment's notice.
Free alts may not be the problem; they'll merely demonstrate the full capabilities of multiboxing while taking away the associated pricetag.
I for one am very curious to see how this plays out... |
Brokk Witgenstein
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Posted - 2016.09.04 03:38:02 -
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The general idea is for them to subscribe, you know ...? Show some leg, give 'em time to complete the tutorial in their own time- that's all. |
Brokk Witgenstein
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Posted - 2016.09.04 08:58:59 -
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Yes. Interaction is good. Competitive, however, is not. Why? Because there is no 'intended niche' for these clones -- I resent the notion that certain playstyles are handed out for free whilst I have to plex a separate account for cyno alts.
It may sound harsh but these clones fulfill two duties:
(a) allow to play through the tutorial
(b) be cannon fodder
When I have to field a 200 mil cruiser and a subscription to be competitive to droves of fully skilled 20 mil T1 cruisers, there is a problem. Spectre fleet runs frigate, destroyer and cruiser fleets all the time. FW is full of them. Were these to be fully skilled vessels for nana, I couldn't help but feel scammed.
Sure I have the option of flying something else, but quite frankly I want a better clone than theirs in any ship class. My T1 frig needs to make bigger holes than theirs. Shipclass is a tactical decision, you see... we don't always fly the biggest ship; we fly the most suitable ship. Those are more often than not cruiser and down.
Allowing one but limiting another can only lead to resentment: no free barge for miners, but a free dessie pilot for gankers? No free cyno frig for me, but free FW fun in tristans and vexors for you? No free scout for us in nullsec while others happily play around in highsec for nullpay? That can't be right man. Limitations are necessary.
Back in the day, by the time I got my first cruiser and the skill to sit in it (level 2 it was), meta 2-4 mods and darn few engineering skills, I knew it was time to decide. Tutorial was over: stay or go? Now the winds are blowing another tune, and that's dandy, but consider there are players who never fly anything but Thrashers, Caracals, Punishers or Slashers. Be that as it may, as far as I'm concerned I'd still like to see a tangible difference between an Alfa slasher and an Omega slasher. |
Brokk Witgenstein
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Posted - 2016.09.09 22:06:38 -
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Ginger Naari wrote:
What if CCP made a snapshot of the server from, say, the day before the announcement. That then becomes the number of accounts mixed between Alpha and Omega you can log on at any one time?
Sounds like "what if we gave some happy few high-profile industrialists T2 BPOs" to me.
There would be no reasonable explanation to give players in a year or two. |
Brokk Witgenstein
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Posted - 2016.09.10 05:37:56 -
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Can't give them the same stats. Where's the carrot? |
Brokk Witgenstein
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Posted - 2016.10.02 21:21:21 -
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Wedgewood Simpson wrote:All this worry around multiple gank accounts assumes there will be no implementation of "green safety only" in HS systems.
If there were I'd take offense. Enough with the HS snowflakes already- a gang of free Thrashers camping FW or cheapass Caracals roaming Provi would be equally disruptive; but of course only HS would be except? Pffff!
Not to mention an Alpha account can't really learn anything valuable is he's locked to green except running level IIs and mining.
Let 'em kick the can. If that means I can haz free Thrasher to shoot at free Catalyst I'll take my chances ;-) |
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